Process Safety

Wed, Feb 16 2011 09:31am GMT 1
ADEEL RAZA
ADEEL RAZA
1 Posts

I have to know what are the things we must have to consider as a process safety engineer to make the process safe.
Is their any data available about the process safety.

Wed, Feb 16 2011 10:30am GMT 2
Richard Brown
Richard Brown
141 Posts
Adeel

Check out some of the following links, they will provide some background on the topic (which is huge by the way)
  1. The ABC's of Process Safety
  2. European Process Safety Centre
  3. Wikipedia - Process Safety
Also check out the Seveso Directive in the EU, Safety Case Legislation in the UK (when I was working at ADMA OPCO between 97 and 03 we used the UK Safety Case Legislation as a template for creating the Safety Cases for the Oil & Gas Installations, that may have changed now as ADNOC have developed their own set of regulations, standards and guidelines), and search the UK's HSE website for Process Safety.

As I said this is a massive topic, entry level qualifications are a Masters Degree in Process Safety Engineering, not something that is picked up from reading a few articles.
Sun, Oct 23 2011 03:16pm IST 3
Shahriar Asgari
Shahriar Asgari
1 Posts
Hi Richard,

I have recntly joined and seeking advice regarding risk based approach in requirememt of PFP on aged offshore platorms. Appreciate if you direct me or help me in this regard.

cheers

Shahriar
Mon, Oct 24 2011 11:42am IST 4
Richard Brown
Richard Brown
141 Posts
Shahriar

Not an area I know much about I am afraid. The only comment I can make is that the standard for PFP should be the same regardless of the age of the structure.

In the UK any failings or shortfalls in the standard for passive fire protection would be identified in the Safety Case review. A programme of replacement or upgrading would be required if the PFP is substandard to allow contined operation, i.e. for HSE to approve the Safety Case.

I have put some links to relevant pages on the HSE's website, I hope these are of help.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/comah/sragtech/techmeasfire.htm
http://www.hse.gov.uk/foi/internalops/hid/spc/spctosd50.htm
http://www.hse.gov.uk/offshore/infosheets/is5-2009.htm

Just looked up your company and I see that they operate some rather antique assets in the Southern North Sea, which I presume informed your question.

Regards

Richard
Sat, Nov 12 2011 09:20am GMT 5
Fajar Rachmat
Fajar Rachmat
2 Posts
Hi Richard,

I have just completed my masters degree in Process Safety and Loss Prevention at the University of Sheffield. Further to your comment above about the entry level qualifications of process safety is master gedree, I would like to have your suggestion about what I should do now, do I need to get NEBOSH and IOSH training? as I want to get a related job now..
Another question, what should a process safety engineer do in designing stage and a running facility?
Thank you Richard,

regards,
Fajar
Sat, Nov 12 2011 11:06am GMT 6
Richard Brown
Richard Brown
141 Posts
Fajar

NEBOSH and IOSH are about occupational health & safety generally this involves the day to day nuts and bolts of getting people to work safely, with tools, chemicals, electricity and so on.

Process safety is an engineering discipline. As your degree title says "Loss Prevention" this includes preventing harm to people, plant, environment even business continuity.

Both these disciplines have a role to play in the overall health & safety performance of plant but they are distinct from each other.

Your Masters Degree is an NVQ Level 5, NEBSOH Diploma is NVQ Level 4 and a NEBOSH NGC is NVQ Level 3 so you are ahead of the game.

I would recommend that you consider joining IOSH as a Graduate with a view to getting MIOSH over the next few years. If you are not already a member then join the IChemE as well.

When I said that the Masters degree was an entry level qualification, I meant that this is what you need to get started in this profession, but academic study is only one part of the equation. You also need experience. Process engineering as an academic exercise is very different from the real world with its financial and time constraints not to mention contractual issues between client, main contractor and subcontractors. I would recommend that you get experience in your specialist area first and then after a few years look to cross over into general health & safety management if that is what you would like to do.

As to your last question, I can't answer that, I am an Occupational Hygienist, not a Process Safety Engineer. However I see that you are on LinkedIn. There are Process Safety groups there that you can join. ADEPP is a good one that has some very good discussions and not just on Process Safety.

Regards

Richard

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