| Fri, Feb 25 2011 12:25am GMT 1 |

Des Neil
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ok so again we face the problem of what is easier and what is
safer.
I worked in south eats asia and onshore and off in the middle east
where humidity meant impaired vison whilst wearing safety glasses
and their solution was to remove the glasses! easy? Hazard Analisys
& Risk control! great tool , look at each task identify the
hazards eliminate or control the hazard. once this tool is complete
its the down to the comittment of management to provide the
resources with which to impliment the prevention and mitigation. I
alsoworked in the northen isles of scotland and North Sea and it
was the same then what is easier is not the same as what is
safer.
At any time of day at least 70% of any workforce will give you a
reason as to why they dont think the safety side of the job is
required as the risk is nothing. Our job is loss prevention and
along with risk assesment and behaviour based training we can stop
this question comng up.
Dont believe me? Ask any eye injury victim if they could have lived
the moment again would they take their safety glasess off if they
still answer yes then they are in the worng industry.
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| Fri, Feb 25 2011 05:43am GMT 2 |

Atul Joshi
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How about Safety Shields intead of glasses???
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| Fri, Feb 25 2011 07:54am GMT 3 |

George Allison
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It has been my experience throughout my 25 years working offshore
world wide, to take safety glasses off in severe rainy conditions
because they then become more the problem and not the cure.
It should be said that this can be mentioned in your pre task
meetings and added to your work permits, which means it has been
discussed and risk assessed and accepted as an additional
hazard.
Hope this is heplfull!!
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| Fri, Feb 25 2011 08:11am GMT 4 |

Phil Cattlin
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Whats the risk working in the rain or wearing glasses in the
rain, the way i see it is many people are afraid to make a
decision and hide behind blanket coverage, yes i agree that if
someone had an accident because they took their glasses of it
would go towards the standard argument of i told you so, but what
about having an accident because of the weather conditions. do a
point of work risk assessment make a decision based on that and
have the balls to stand by your decision.
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| Fri, Feb 25 2011 12:47pm GMT 5 |

Chad Lilley
1 Posts
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Has the world of safety gone mad??? Why would you need a debate
on this subject, surely this is what risk assessments and method
statements were invented for??
Regards,
Chad Lilley
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| Fri, Feb 25 2011 01:23pm GMT 6 |

kevin prout
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forget potatoes?. get eyewear to EN166 f or b K N and they will not
mist? Same coating as our olympic ski and luge goggles 90mph,
sweating you dont want misting? Nano coating ensure the rain does
not edhere and falls off with the dirt it collects. Our ultrasonic
goggle is used on MOD flight decks, spray, fumes, cold, hot extreme
conditions. will happily send a pair out FOC. k.prout@uvex.co.uk
peel offs are impracticle and will reduce the optical clarity from
class 1?
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| Fri, Feb 25 2011 01:52pm GMT 7 |

David Burns
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Seems to me like an additional PPE assesment is needed. We all know
PPE is issued as a last resort to protect from hazards identified
and is issued as a part of a control strategy, it has to be worn in
conjunction with any other PPE and be suitable for the wearer; and
not create additional hazards to the user. If rain is affecting the
vision of personnel then either additional controls are required or
a review (in light of current technology) for sollutions to the
problem.
As an oddball question how many people have recorded on their Hazrd
register that eyeprotection in rain presents additional hazards to
personnel by virtue of restricted vision?
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| Fri, Feb 25 2011 03:30pm GMT 8 |

Bhaskar Sinha
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To me, 'safety' is a common sense. Everything can't be controlled
by the standard. If your risk assessment requires a 'safety glass',
then it is mandatory. If not you can do away with it (considering
that the risk assessment evaluated the rain factor). And when you
require to work in the rain with the 'safety glass' on, try to get
a larger 'head gear' which can give you the 'umbrella effect' and
mimise/zeroing the risk of the 'rain factor'.
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| Fri, Feb 25 2011 06:18pm GMT 9 |

Kevin Site Owner
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Hi guys. Locking this now as think we have covered everything.
Cheers for the response.
Kevin
www.hsepeople.com
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