| Mon, Sep 28 2009 03:32am IST 1 |

Steve Krile
7 Posts
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Hey everyone. Just wanted to let you all know I've launched my new
company - www.corehse.com. This site is designed specifically for
HSE people! You can track Employees, Training, Incidents (and soon
- Action Items, Energy Use, and Waste). The site is a subscription
service, so there is no software to install. Just one yearly fee
gives you every feature.
I've designed the site to be useful for small and big companies
alike. If you get a second, check it out and let me know what you
think.
Steve Krile
President, Blue Rail Solutions, LLC
www.corehse.com
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| Mon, Sep 28 2009 09:12am IST 2 |

Richard Brown
141 Posts
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Steve
Are your servers based in the USA? If so how do you help your
clients in Europe comply with the data protection laws here given
the data protection laws of the US are much weaker than the
EU.
The regulations in the UK and other European countries require data
retention for many years, up to 40 for some types of data. How do
you ensure data integrity over this period of time? What would
happen to the data if your company went out of buisiness, or was
bought by another company?
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| Mon, Sep 28 2009 11:10am IST 3 |

Steve Krile
7 Posts
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Great question - and one we've been struggling for a while with at
work. In my day job, I manage the HS&E information for a large
automotive supplier. Our servers are located in the US and we have
operations all over Europe and the rest of the world. To overcome
this issue we've applied for (and obtained) Safe-Harbor status for
our data center. This of course is not easy to do.
For CoreHSE.com I'm just getting started. I currently have all of
the data hosted by a third-party in California. They have a very
stringent security protocol and I've used the highest levels of
security in my application design to ensure unwanted access is
extremely difficult.
As for the data persistance (what would happen if I were purchased
or went out of business), in the Terms and Conditions it is stated
that subscribers "own" their own data. I host their data for them
and make it available through a web-based interface, but the data
is theirs. Should I go out of business or ownership change, all
subscribers would recieve notice of the change and be given an
option to either continue with the service or close their account
and receive the data (in a structured format of course).
But really, your question touches on an intangible. The same
questions could be asked of anyone storing data in any way -
whether it's on an internal or external system. The bottom-line
question then is one of trust and verification. I take the
protection of my customer's data very seriously, and as my reach
extends beyond North America, I will take every step required to
comply with the laws of the land.
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| Mon, Sep 28 2009 11:51am IST 4 |

Richard Brown
141 Posts
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Whoops, double posting here as I used "Quoting" incorrectly and
created a new topic
Original
Post
But really, your question touches on an intangible. The same
questions could be asked of anyone storing data in any way -
whether it's on an internal or external system. The bottom-line
question then is one of trust and verification. I take the
protection of my customer's data very seriously, and as my reach
extends beyond North America, I will take every step required to
comply with the laws of the land.
You are correct , this is the reasons businesses should have
offsite backups. It isn't that internet based
software-as-a-service is a bad idea, there are a great many
positives. But the questions about data security have to be
asked, and in your case answered well.
To some extent data security in the UK is becoming irrelevant as
Her Majesty's Government routinely disperses our information to
the four corners of cyberspace - but that is just me becoming
cynical.
regards
Richard
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| Mon, Sep 28 2009 12:03pm IST 5 |

Steve Krile
7 Posts
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Yes, I imagine I will be asked much more difficult derivations of
the same question!
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| Mon, Sep 28 2009 12:03pm IST 6 |

Richard Brown
141 Posts
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Kev posted:
Steve
Richard makes a good point. You might want to register with the
information commisioners office. Its a requirement in the UK
under the data protection act. It costs next to nothing but will
demonstrate to your customers that you are in compliance.
http://www.ico.gov.uk/
Kev
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| Mon, Sep 28 2009 12:07pm IST 7 |

Steve Krile
7 Posts
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uh oh....
"If the Data Controller address above is outside the UK or any
other EEA state you MUST complete the
representative name and address. This address must be a UK address
for the notification to be valid. Furthermore, when you come to
complete the Contact Address (if this is different from the
Representative details) this must also be a UK address."
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| Mon, Sep 28 2009 12:22pm IST 8 |

Kevin Site Owner
470 Posts
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Steve
Not quite sure how it works maybe worth sending them an email. Its
probably not a requirement for you but more a good to have.
Kev
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