| Mon, Feb 15 2010 12:15pm GMT 1 |

Toni Jackson
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I am saddened by the number of contractor fatalities and injuries
in high risk and remote environments , there seems to be a huge
gap between an organisations permanent employees and
contractors.
I would like to know from the contractor community why this ratio
is so different and what organisations could do to low contractor
fatalities and injuries.
Is it about the on-boarding process or the management of
contractors?
If you could change or influence the on-boarding or management
what processes would you recommend.
My organisation manages the life cycle of outsourced contractors
and we have recently been brought into high risk environments
through our customers, we believe there is huge opportunity to
influence processes around safety and compliance and we believe
every contractor deserves to go home.
I would love to hear any recommendations, thoughts on whether it
is possible to implement and govern on-baording especially in
remote locations and general comments on the on-boarding of
contractors into high risk environments and whether in your
experience you were given the necessary training to complete a
contract safely.
Thanks
Toni
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| Tue, Feb 16 2010 08:58am GMT 2 |

Frank Hallett
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Hi Toni - welcome!
Your post opens up on a very wide range of underlying issues that
are common to the "contracting" business throughout the
world.
Even in countries that have strong laws governing these areas of
business; the real problems arise from the perceptions of the
relationship between the contractor and their client [especially
where that client is a more influential contractor [in the UK they
would be a "Principal Contractor" & generally be in charge of
the whole job].
There is no single issue here, but there are a range of common
issues, most of which will be present in most contractor/client
relationships. There simply isn't enough space here to effectively
discuss these issues properly; but they tend to be based on the
principles of ultimate dispensability of contractors, distrust,
inequality of values of permanent v contracted staff, & the
perceived outcome of a contractor reporting any lost time or
damaged plant events [normally result in financial loss to
contractor or loss of contract].
I would be happy to respond further if you wish.
Frank Hallett
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| Thu, Feb 18 2010 11:02am GMT 3 |

Toni Jackson
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Hi Frank
Thank you for your response, you are right " contractor
management" is complexed and whilst there are many layers of
issues it appears that your underlying reasons are more around
attitude of the client. Frank, what has worked for you in
beginning to change this attitude towards contractors, especially
since the use of contractors is only going to increase due to the
boom in energy?
Regards
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| Sat, Jun 18 2011 06:45pm IST 4 |

John Mc Donnell
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Toni,
The whole emphasis on contractor control should be managed by
PSCS/CDM coordinator in the UK/IRL.
But if the scope and timeframe is not right from the outset, then
this leads to different objectives from the client, principle
contractor and the project management team.
John
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| Sat, Jun 18 2011 07:45pm IST 5 |

Frank Hallett
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John is quite right about the principal management focal point
here; however, I must point out that the CDM Co-ordinator is
explicitly not required to "manage" the Principal or other
Contractors - they are the Clients tool for ensuring appropriate
planning, co-ordination, identification of resources and how well
the contractor will meet the range of defined Project needs.
The "down-side" is that we have a national UK culture of having a
prescriptive and controlling approach to managing contractors that
is exacerbated by a woefully low range of appropriate mangement
skills in many areas of construction. The norme is now imposition
[and often accompanied by micromanagement] by the Client and
Principal Contractor that is supported by draconian reactions to
any perceived failure to meet any Performance Indicators [also
generally imposed].
This simply creates a climate where many who work as, or for,
contractors see absolutely no benefit in admitting or identifying
errors and consequently generates a climate of distrust and secrecy
- when this is identified it is then used as the reason to
reinforce the prescriptive regime.
Also, I see a considerable number of manufacturing & office
sites where contractors are routinely used; many of these will
impose the same rule on all but have differing standards of
compliance and punishment for staff and contractors for the same
transgression - again, no way to gain any faith or trust from the
group [normally contractors] who know that they will receive more
harsh treatment for the same failure.
Notwithstanding my comments above, it has to be recognised that
there are many contractors that actually deserve to be managed in
such a way due to their corporate and individual attitudes to
acceptable levels of HSF&E compliance. But I would say that
this is an issue for responsible contractor recruitment!
Please don't translate the above as being an approach intended to
lessen the requirements of the emminently sensible legislation;
it's not! But the above scenarios are all-to-common and should be
recognised, rather than ignored, by those that create them.
Frank Hallett
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| Sat, Jun 18 2011 08:59pm IST 6 |

John Mc Donnell
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Frank
Thank you for your comments, I'm not that familar with the role of
the CDM co-ordinator.
The role of the PSCS in Ireland is to ensure all contractors on the
project implement the construction regulations and also to ensure
cooperation between all contractors on site.
I agree with your thinking on the draconian measures taken by the
management, but it is very difficult to benchmark the construction
industry against others.
The reason is the workers are only employed for the lenght of the
project and cultures, expectations and performance will vary
greatly.
John
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